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		<title>By: adil</title>
		<link>http://www.creativitykilledtherecession.com/education-killed-the-creativity-in-me/comment-page-1/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>adil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 21:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, I&#039;m really happy to hear from a Professor on this especially one from WLU no less. 

Working backwards from your questions/thoughts, I believe creativity exists within all of us so I don&#039;t think it needs to be taught per say, as much is it might need to be encouraged or nurtured. I often dismiss the title of a &quot;creative individual&quot; as I think this individual, for whatever reason, was encouraged (or simply failed to listen when told otherwise) to explore their free thinking thoughts from a young age.  Everyone has new ideas, but some have more than others and even fewer feel confident enough to express them. 

It&#039;s interesting to me that what seems to be valued most in curriculum is a student&#039;s ability to regurgitate information. I don&#039;t &#039;blame&#039; the students who do this, since they&#039;re simply being smart and following the system&#039;s requirements but I do wonder what the educators assume the students are gaining by doing this? Are they truly learning how to become leaders who think on their feet when they are being awarded to memorize and repeat? There is definitely a middle road between those who are BS-ing (because they likely don&#039;t know the content) and those who are repeating. 

We are coincidentally going to be in Waterloo tomorrow for the Link Business Conference where our company, My City Lives (www.mycitylives.com), will be the basis of their case component. If you&#039;d like to chat further, drop me a note and we&#039;ll pop by when we&#039;re done speaking - adil@mycitylives.com

Cheers

p.s. thanks for the Wilfrid reminder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I&#8217;m really happy to hear from a Professor on this especially one from WLU no less. </p>
<p>Working backwards from your questions/thoughts, I believe creativity exists within all of us so I don&#8217;t think it needs to be taught per say, as much is it might need to be encouraged or nurtured. I often dismiss the title of a &#8220;creative individual&#8221; as I think this individual, for whatever reason, was encouraged (or simply failed to listen when told otherwise) to explore their free thinking thoughts from a young age.  Everyone has new ideas, but some have more than others and even fewer feel confident enough to express them. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to me that what seems to be valued most in curriculum is a student&#8217;s ability to regurgitate information. I don&#8217;t &#8216;blame&#8217; the students who do this, since they&#8217;re simply being smart and following the system&#8217;s requirements but I do wonder what the educators assume the students are gaining by doing this? Are they truly learning how to become leaders who think on their feet when they are being awarded to memorize and repeat? There is definitely a middle road between those who are BS-ing (because they likely don&#8217;t know the content) and those who are repeating. </p>
<p>We are coincidentally going to be in Waterloo tomorrow for the Link Business Conference where our company, My City Lives (www.mycitylives.com), will be the basis of their case component. If you&#8217;d like to chat further, drop me a note and we&#8217;ll pop by when we&#8217;re done speaking &#8211; <a href="mailto:adil@mycitylives.com">adil@mycitylives.com</a></p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>p.s. thanks for the Wilfrid reminder!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McCutcheon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McCutcheon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 18:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psst...it&#039;s Wilfrid not Wilfred...

But it raises an interesting question...from the standpoint of a university education and course design, should creativity trump correctness? Or vice versa?  For example, as a university professor I get some very &quot;creative&quot; answers to examination questions, but unfortunately they are wrong in that they fail to answer the question as posed and completely disregard the course material upon which the examination question was based. Some would simply dismiss such answers as bullshiting,  but often these &quot;creative&quot; responses are a heck of a lot more thought provoking and fun to read than a standard, hackneyed response that simply regurgitates the text and lecture materials (and often generates an A level grade).

But perhaps an even more compelling question is...can creativity actually be taught?  Encouraged yes, but taught???  Hmmm...

What are your thoughts, Adil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psst&#8230;it&#8217;s Wilfrid not Wilfred&#8230;</p>
<p>But it raises an interesting question&#8230;from the standpoint of a university education and course design, should creativity trump correctness? Or vice versa?  For example, as a university professor I get some very &#8220;creative&#8221; answers to examination questions, but unfortunately they are wrong in that they fail to answer the question as posed and completely disregard the course material upon which the examination question was based. Some would simply dismiss such answers as bullshiting,  but often these &#8220;creative&#8221; responses are a heck of a lot more thought provoking and fun to read than a standard, hackneyed response that simply regurgitates the text and lecture materials (and often generates an A level grade).</p>
<p>But perhaps an even more compelling question is&#8230;can creativity actually be taught?  Encouraged yes, but taught???  Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>What are your thoughts, Adil?</p>
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		<title>By: Adil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew, the issue was not that it was hard but that I had passed the point where I cared to fake an interest in a system which I thought faked an interest in me. I can assure you that hard work and challenges are two things that i enjoy probably more than most and if I sucked it up anymore, I’d be filled with enough air that I’d float away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, the issue was not that it was hard but that I had passed the point where I cared to fake an interest in a system which I thought faked an interest in me. I can assure you that hard work and challenges are two things that i enjoy probably more than most and if I sucked it up anymore, I’d be filled with enough air that I’d float away.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Lampard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Lampard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heating in exams, although creative, is probably not a good idea. That’s called laziness.

I’m not sure what it says about you: it’s hard, and I like hanging out with friends…so…I take the easy way out. Creative? Hm…?

I guess it makes no difference now, but the assessment given to you seems to follow you around: “‘gifted’ but behavioral problems had prevented me from my ‘true potential’.”

Suck it up. Don’t cheat…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heating in exams, although creative, is probably not a good idea. That’s called laziness.</p>
<p>I’m not sure what it says about you: it’s hard, and I like hanging out with friends…so…I take the easy way out. Creative? Hm…?</p>
<p>I guess it makes no difference now, but the assessment given to you seems to follow you around: “‘gifted’ but behavioral problems had prevented me from my ‘true potential’.”</p>
<p>Suck it up. Don’t cheat…</p>
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		<title>By: Aber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our education system won’t nurture creativity until the corporate influence is removed. Take a look at any university in Canada and make notice of which corporations are donating the largest sums of money. This process obviously serves these companies well, streamlining their future workforce to suit their industrial needs. Universities have been under this type of attack for a long while now, as the arts and music have been increasingly cut from the high school curriculum. Well rounded students usually have the ability to think critically, much like this group does. This is not desirable in a corporate dictatorship. The slave masters are afraid of losing their slaves to free thought, favoring a rigid mind over a flexible one. Educate yourself! We now have the tools…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our education system won’t nurture creativity until the corporate influence is removed. Take a look at any university in Canada and make notice of which corporations are donating the largest sums of money. This process obviously serves these companies well, streamlining their future workforce to suit their industrial needs. Universities have been under this type of attack for a long while now, as the arts and music have been increasingly cut from the high school curriculum. Well rounded students usually have the ability to think critically, much like this group does. This is not desirable in a corporate dictatorship. The slave masters are afraid of losing their slaves to free thought, favoring a rigid mind over a flexible one. Educate yourself! We now have the tools…</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I relate and agree whole-heartedly. You may as well be transcribing my personal feelings on (my) education (experience).

Nice to know I’m not alone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I relate and agree whole-heartedly. You may as well be transcribing my personal feelings on (my) education (experience).</p>
<p>Nice to know I’m not alone</p>
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		<title>By: Amira D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amira D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another follow up on Robinson’s piece

http://www.presentationzen.com/presentationzen/2008/09/education-killing-creativity.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another follow up on Robinson’s piece</p>
<p><a href="http://www.presentationzen.com/presentationzen/2008/09/education-killing-creativity.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.presentationzen.com/presentationzen/2008/09/education-killing-creativity.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: adil</title>
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		<dc:creator>adil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, no, I would not encourage that either. But the reason why I mentioned it was that for my entire academic life, I adhered to a defined system which was not well suited to my interests and one day I finally decided that my time pursuing what I wanted to do was more important than what I was ’supposed to do’. I just had no interest in learning something I had no interest in and so I took a slightly drastic measure to avoid it. The extreme case of what I did would be someone dropping out which as you can see from the reply above, is still happening at alarming rates.

The good thing is by recognizing this, combined with what I believe is being at an open-minded school, I was able to explore and nurture my own idea of academia. For example, rather than handing in a typical standard research report following a co-op experience, I was allowed to hand in a non-fictional story about my experience, framed as if I was writing for a magazine. For me, this was equally as valuable and being able to do it encouraged me to write more…and here we are now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, no, I would not encourage that either. But the reason why I mentioned it was that for my entire academic life, I adhered to a defined system which was not well suited to my interests and one day I finally decided that my time pursuing what I wanted to do was more important than what I was ’supposed to do’. I just had no interest in learning something I had no interest in and so I took a slightly drastic measure to avoid it. The extreme case of what I did would be someone dropping out which as you can see from the reply above, is still happening at alarming rates.</p>
<p>The good thing is by recognizing this, combined with what I believe is being at an open-minded school, I was able to explore and nurture my own idea of academia. For example, rather than handing in a typical standard research report following a co-op experience, I was allowed to hand in a non-fictional story about my experience, framed as if I was writing for a magazine. For me, this was equally as valuable and being able to do it encouraged me to write more…and here we are now</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure you want to encourage what he did in that finance course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure you want to encourage what he did in that finance course.</p>
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		<title>By: aDIL</title>
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		<dc:creator>aDIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks David – I actually stumbled upon a really upsetting article about the absurdly high drop out rates in Quebec, Canada. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/a-power-broker-with-a-social-bent/article1151399/

Nearly 1/3 of high school kids are dropping out in Q which is mind boggling. No doubt, there are many reasons for that but certainly part of the issue is the system not satisfying the creative needs or interests of a large group of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David – I actually stumbled upon a really upsetting article about the absurdly high drop out rates in Quebec, Canada. <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/a-power-broker-with-a-social-bent/article1151399/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/a-power-broker-with-a-social-bent/article1151399/</a></p>
<p>Nearly 1/3 of high school kids are dropping out in Q which is mind boggling. No doubt, there are many reasons for that but certainly part of the issue is the system not satisfying the creative needs or interests of a large group of people.</p>
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